Welcome to my 2059 Project
The scope of this project was to take a trio of surplus TYCO C430s and convert them into one usable non powered free rolling unit to be numbered 2059 that I could place into a four unit Alco C424 & C425 consist.
I mentioned that New York Central RR fans would know the significance of the 2059. For the record 1:1 PC Ralph did email the correct answer. So what is the significance you ask?
Here is the answer from an article in the New York Central Historical Society 4th quarter 1977 Headlight magazine
Which brings us to the year 1967, the last full year before the Penn Central merger. During that year EMD delivered 55 GP-40's, GE 60 U30B's, and Alco 10 C-430's, all on a trade-in basis, which further decimated the ranks of the first generation road fleet. Ironically, the Alco C-430's, the Central's first Alcos in five years, were also the last pre-merger units delivered, presaging the end in the coming year of the New York Central as an independent railroad and of Alco as a locomotive builder.
Charles M . Smith
Mechanical Engineer - Locomotive
New York Central System 1963-1968
So my theory is that the NYC Alco C430s being the last premerger units delivered and the 2059 being the highest road number that the 2059 would be the last NYC locomotive delivered. I could be wrong on this but not have been able to confirm the theory further either way.
My 2059 project came about when John Bruce sent me the Penn Central Alco C630 #6324 shell and 1:1 Sir Neal sent me a couple of boxes of old TYCO, Mantua and IHC engines to help me get the 6324 onto my roster. A couple of TYCO / Mantua C430s like this CB&Q C430 were a pleasant surprise for future projects.
Age had taken its toll on some of the units. The TYCO C430s have been around since 1966!
So what exactly is an Alco Century C430? The Century C430 was a four axle 3,000 horsepower diesel locomotive that rode on Alco's new Hi Adhesion trucks. It offered an incredible tractive effort of 68,220 lbs but it was too little to late for the iconic locomotive builder with the Class 1s 'standardizing' their fleets with EMD and GE products. Here is the 2059 talking things over with the 6324.
One of the compromises of this project was the TYCO trucks do not resemble the Hi Adhesion trucks that came on the prototype. In fact the trucks are the same as the trucks TYCO used on their C630s. The fuel tanks, air tanks and horns were different as well. But I gotta admit from normal viewing distance it doesn't bother me at all.
The 2059 in it's prototypically sparse PC paint job brings out the NYCTL train men and 1/87th scale Alco Joe is thanking Sir Neal for making this project possible. This all Alco lash up is now one of my favorites featuring C424 #2415 (The one and only) C430 #2059 and C425s #2417 and #2422. The three powered units are smooth running Atlas/Kato yellow box units.
I was originally planning on painting the engine as NYC 2059 with the NYC ovals on the cab sides and the numbers below that. Seeing how the front truck assembly locks into the shell right under the cab side where the numbers would need to go had me opt for the more utilitarian Penn Central 2059.
So there it is an inexpensive project that pays homage to the last NYC engine albeit in PC paint. Bowser did produce the PC 2059 and other NYC and PC C430s in it's executive line with and without sound. I don't see myself paying the $199.99 price for the basic unit though.
The four unit Alco lash up was featured in this short video in PCCM 59
The ex NYC 2059 made it onto the Conrail roster as CR 2059 but it does not appear to have received a CR blue paint job. The 2059 was still on the roster in 1980 but it is in the Collinwood Deadline on 07-04-1980. It is reported on RR Pictures Archives that the 2059 was scrapped.
The ex NYC/PC C430s #2050, #2053, #2054 and #2056 were sold to the Livonia, Avon & Lakeville RR
The ex NYC/PC C430s #2050, #2053, #2054 may still be in service today on the Western NY & Pennsylvania RR. The #2056 may still survive today on the Western NY & Pennsylvania RR.
Thank you 1:1 Sir Neal!!!!
Thanks for reading!!!
Hello John! Your PC 2059 looks great! Since I've been reading your blog, I realized early on that one doesn't have to have the latest and greatest motive power, or anything else for that matter, to enjoy the model railroading hobby. To me, improving on the look and performance of older locomotives is an enjoyable hobby in itself. Great job!
ReplyDeleteHi Robert! Thanks for the compliments! One of my favorite parts of the hobby is to give new life to older equipment.
DeleteGreat work on 2059! Always happy to help out a fellow modeler and friend. Nice background on the PC 2059 as well. It's the little things that make it enjoyable...
ReplyDeleteThank you once again Sir Neal! Much appreciated!
DeleteLooks good! I still remember waiting and waiting and waiting for Tyco to come out with their NH painted C430 -- it was announced much earlier than the actual release date, and by the time it came out, I decided I didn't want such a "wannabe" loco model. Oh, well!
ReplyDeleteThanks for the compliments and putting the project in motion John!
ReplyDeleteGreat job creating a fine looking C430...and a tribute to what is likley the least NYC locomotive ordered! The new unit looks terrific in four loco consist in your video!
ReplyDeleteThanks Ralph!! I double checked my PC Bi-Annual locomotive rosters and would you believe with all the GP30s I have on my roster the NYC only had 10 on their roster, the same amount as the C430s. The PRR contributed 52 GP30s bringing the PC total to 62 which left the 10 C430s as very rare birds indeed.
DeleteGreat looking rescue from the Purgatory Box. Alco Joe is giddy to run a classic looking lash up of Alco four axle high horse power units. I've got a couple of Tyco C430's that I considered for a conversion, but the trucks and fuel tank always held me back. You did a great job with the conversion and paint job. Thank you for the background story and history on this rare and classic unit!
ReplyDeleteThanks Brian!!! With this latest Alco on the roster 1/87th scale Alco Joe is volunteering to work double shifts at the controls of this lash up!
DeleteThe TYCO C430 units definitely have some discrepancies with their prototype but with this project I decided to overlook all that and just do it. The unit is to be a middle of the consist unit so as long as it blends in I'm happy with it. I added Kadee couplers to the talgo trucks and didn't do much more than make it free rolling and replace some missing parts.
I’m not surprised Alco Joe is excited to run the Alco Centuries to Bedford Park. 1:1 Alco Joe can hear the burble and smell the exhaust of the 251 prime movers. 2059 is the perfect addition to the other Century four axle units. The Yanosey referenced “black dip”paint works well with its boxey design. Surprisingly four of the ten still exist
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You could actually visit them in person! Really great save from the Purgatory Box and will be a nice addition to the roster 😃
Love the use of the TYCO C430. There are several YOUTUBE videos about servicing and modifying the pancake motors of those locomotives. I used to have one and remember how well it pulled. Since you said you received multiple ones, if you want a powered loco, consider adding another power truck to an already powered locomotive. Two powered trucks wired together under one shell run much more smoothly than one. You could end up with an fairly smooth running model.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the compliments Jeff!! Thanks for the tips on upgrading the units with the second power truck. Unfortunately the units did not run when they arrived. If I can cobble together a second decent shell I may give it powering them up a try. Thanks again, John
DeleteA great story this is and very well done.Great photos too.
ReplyDeleteThanks Jimmy!!!
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